I would hate it if I took it more seriously. Luckily, Code Geass has make itself clear that it is trying to be goofy after the episode where Norio Wakamoto appears. Every time he appears on screen, I was reminded how this show is so ridiculous that I shouldn’t even consider it.
So what exactly did he first do to convince me that Code Geass is not worth paying attention? He, a 50 years old man, a supposedly wise and noble ruler who conquered half the world , told a 10 years old boy to fuck off to his dead mama and die! Right in his face! You have no idea how much I laugh at that scene and since then, the image of Code Geass being this 12 years old boy who tries way to hard to be serious and cool is forever imprinted in my mind.
Another problem I have with Code Geass is how they set up Lelouch as this smart and tactful character when he is actually one of the stupidest character I ever seen. He fucked things up so much that it’s not even funny. Any attempts to portray him as a smart and plotting character were jeopardized by the inane choices and mistakes he made.
First obvious example is definitely the episode where a cat stole his Zero’s mask. The episode shows how stupid and tactless Lelouch truly is when a fucking cat can fuck up his whole life. This episode is played off as a laugh but the implication of the issue is very serious. You see, the Zero’s mask is the only thing to connect Zero with Lelouch. At that time, in order not to be targeted by Britania, Lelouch tried his hardest to conceal his identity by making the mask. So if people found out that cat stole the mask and hence resulting in Lelouch secret identity to be known, he would be in deep shit. And let me remind you that all this deep shit is caused by none other than a stupid cat.
How the fuck can you take Lelouch seriously after he made such an amateur mistake? Hell, thinking back, is that ridiculous and recognizable mask a good idea in the first place? You would think a simple conventional mask with a voice distortion microphone may work better in case of episode like this. The mask also makes you question the maturity of Lelouch because it looks like something a 12 years old would think is cool. You know, like wannabe superhero with their ridiculously flamboyant outfit?
Then there’s that episode of erasing Shirley’s entire memory of him instead of just asking her to erase the memory of him being Zero. Wouldn’t erasing every memories about him somehow make his life more difficult? Sure, there is that stupid excuse of them having a quarrel to cover the discrepancy of people suddenly forgetting someone they knew for years but how long would that last?
Even if we take it that the stupid excuse worked because every characters in Code Geass are dumb, remember this, Lelouch only told this “quarrellings” excuse to the student council so what about Shirley’s non-student council’s friends?
In one episode, her roommate, a non-student council member, clearly indicated that she knew about the relationship between Shirley and Lelouch. People talk about stuff between them regularly. So are you saying that no one, not a single person talk to Shirley about Lelouch through out the show? If that happens,won’t that result in, I don’t know, fuck things up since that would mess up Shirley’s memories?
So what the hell is Lelouch thinking when he did that? That’s a rhetorical question because I know the answer. You see, Code Geass wants to create drama and tension. First, they want to portray how sad and resolute Lelouch is with his intention of being a terrorist and saving the world. Secondly, the writer is planning for the impending episode of Shirley regaining her memories so we can have this dramatic reunion when that happens.
However, keep in mind that all these drama and character building are derived from a stupid and unnecessary decision made by Lelouch. The complication of Shirley regaining her memories would never happen if Lelouch just erase her memory of Lelouch being Zero.
Not only that, it gave us more reason to think that Lelouch is dumb and shortsighted. Also, by taking this dumb decision, the impending drama of the complication of Shirley regaining her memories would just be be force and contrived because the complication would never happen if Lelouch didn’t suddenly turn retarded and erase all of Shirley’s memories about him. Normal logic tells you that you don’t fucking do things that are unneeded when there’s a simpler and viable way of just erasing part of her memories!
That’s not all, his episode with Mao is also illogical and stupid. There’s this scene where he tricks Mao into thinking that he is in a tower far from him by showing a pre recorded video. Now, you would think that that is a very clever trick by Lelouch but if you think about it, Lelouch is just taking unnecessary risk because there’s no reason to trick Mao into thinking that he’s far away. What’s the need to be on the scene when he can just geass the police officers to save C.C then bring her back to him? There’s no reason to risk Mao finding out that he is interacting with a pre recorded video because there isn’t a single need for Lelouch to be fucking near Mao to save C.C!
This Mao episode just undermines the whole “how smart this trick is” whooha because it’s not smart and Lelouch is just complicating so he can appear to be smart. This is like risking yourself through the used of fucking complicated algebra to solve the problem of 1+1. It’s unnecessary.
I don’t even want to go into how the “I can predict all your move” hijinks is just impossible and stupidly risky to pull off. I think I have elaborated enough on how this is just a hoax to cheat the viewers into thinking that Lelouch is smart. Speaking of Mao, how did he survive all that bullet in the body shit again?
There are also some convenient editing throughout the show so they don’t need to give you logical explanation for seemly difficult task. For example, in one episode, Cornellia nearly caught Lelouch( Lelouch fucked up again, he fucked up all the time) after she suspect that he is inside one of the mech in her army. Next thing, C.C appeared in Zero’s outfit to diffuse the suspicion of Corneliia and escaped.Cornellia decided not to follow C.C after she escaped because she just assumed that Zero would have an escape plan… …
Wait what? You have an entire army behind you and your enemy is just one fellow in flesh and meat yet you decided not to take the chance to pursue him(her) because you think he(she) has an escape plan? You just outsmarted and obliterated Zero’s entire army and you didn’t pursue him because of some baseless assumption that he has an escape plan? What the hell are you thinking?!
Whew, now I have calm down and acceptted that Cornellia just over-thinks the situation for no convincing reason, let’s get back to the convenient edit. So Cornellia didn’t pursue the fake Zero and disregarded her suspicion that Zero is inside her army. Now remember that Lelouch is still inside a mech with army of mech surrounding him so it’s still not easy for him to escape from there. However, instead of showing us how Lelouch escape from that army, we are cut to the scene in a sewer where him and C.C met up. How did he pull that off? You would never know.
Now this might seem like nitpicking but you see, won’t that be a good chance to showcase how smart Lelouch is by showing us the technicalities on how the did the escape?
Actually fuck all that, how about showing us how smart he is by solving the pinch when he is asked to eject from his cockpit instead of letting C.C magically appears and solves everything?
There are lots and lots of wasted chances like these to really show how smart Lelouch is but they are always solved with some dumb convenient shit. It’s either C.C suddenly have this magical power or people suddenly turn stupid.
I also don’t like how they skip major scenes such as how that tanned woman ended up in the bay after she got shot or how Suzaku and others survived the hadron cannon blast. It’s just borderline impossible and the writer is too lazy to explain on how they pulled them off.
Anyway, Lelouch is not the only stupid one in this show, our aforementioned mentioned Cornellia also did some stupid shit to outplay Lelouch in stupidity. After that episode of letting C.C off easily because she assumed she had an escape plan, her next plan to save the hostages in a hotel is to totally blew a hole to the hotel’s foundation and let it sinks then think of things they can do later on while praying that the terrorist wouldn’t notice that the hotel is sinking and start shooting all the hostages… …
I can also go on and on for the whole day with this. I don”t even mention episode 22 and how contrived it is with the “kill all Japanese” shit after the geass malfunctioned deus ex machina style. I also don’t want to go on about not how Code Geass tries to tackle important and serious issue like terrorism and civil war without giving the attention they need.
Sometimes I really wonder if Taniguchi Goro intentionally made Lelouch dumb to criticize how laughable and immature real life idealism terrorists are. If that’s the case then Code Geass is indeed a very clever satire but I think I am giving it too much credits.
If you notice it, I am mostly talking about Season 1 stuff. So what about Season 2?
I think that’s enough.
Actually, the more I think about it, the more I hate Code Geass. Fuck Code Geass, I wasted 50 episodes of my time with it. I was so nitpicky about it because I have high expectation for it and it’s 50 frigging episodes. Little kids wouldn’t understand how 50 episodes of time is precious and you can’t waste that many time when you reached a certain age. I gained no enjoyment from Code Geass. I don’t like it ironically. I think it’s a poorly written show with poor characters. I think it’s a show which thinks it’s very smart but didn’t put up enough substance to back it up. Fuck Code Geass.


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March 12, 2012 at 12:15 am
Musha Slater
You’ve got some good points there but as a fan, I still love Code Geass as a show just because of the shocking and unpredictable storyline. But everyone’s different.
March 12, 2012 at 8:01 am
IWICSYI
At least I can gather enough materials with Code Geass to write about it. Can’t say the same for a lot of other show and that aspect itself is enough for me to appreciate it. I used the word “appreciate” very loosely here.
March 12, 2012 at 8:03 am
Musha Slater
Hehehe… Understood.
April 15, 2012 at 3:13 am
Chevalier
I think you’re close to missing the point though, for a couple of reasons.
For a start, Lelouch is not meant to be a perfect character in the first place. Far too often people equate “intelligence” with “being totally cold-hearted” or “making the best possible choice” but that’s rather misleading and simply not necessarily true.
Even smart individuals in real life can be entirely vulnerable to emotional bias and all sorts of factors, such as irrationality and immaturity, color their choices. Lelouch, regardless of his actual or perceived qualities, is also supposed to be a very flawed individual in that particular respect and the show never avoids highlighting this fact. After all, he messes up almost as much as he wins.
This also applies to other characters. Take Cornelia, for example, whose behavior during the hotel incident can be traced back to her sisterly love for Euphemia. Yes, feelings do make even grown men and women making mistakes and overlooking obvious solutions, particularly when you make them vulnerable. Is it always a case of dumb writing when the underlying concept, leaving all the unrealistic situations and silly trappings aside, isn’t too far from the truth?
Anyone can artificially step out of the context of the show and suggest a million things Lelouch (or Suzaku, etc.) could have done differently or “better” but that’s like arguing the plot of Lord of the Rings could have been resolved in 30 minutes if only Gandalf had given the ring to that magical eagle and made it go all the way to Mordor, or that World War II could have been avoided if someone with a brain had read Mein Kampf, taken its content seriously and blown Hitler up at the first sign that yes, he actually meant what he wrote. But nope, a ridiculous policy of appeasement was attempted.
Perhaps more importantly, I agree that Code Geass is not meant to be completely serious, to say the least, but the real question is whether that means you should be cynical to the point of deconstructing the whole thing or if you should simply accept that as intentional and play by the show’s rules, as ridiculous as they may seem on the surface, and optionally paying attention to those parts that are surprisingly interesting in spite of it.
April 15, 2012 at 1:12 pm
IWICSYI
Didn’t watch or read Lord of the Rings so I couldn’t comment on that. If thing could be solved so easily and if it makes sense that Gandalf could do that, then I will say that the plot of Lord of the Rings is very flawed.
I have very limited knowledge on World History so I don’t really know the details but I think you are oversimplifying the issues on Hitler and WW2. For one, from the little WW2 history I have learned in school many years ago, I understand that the general state of mind of the German population at that time is not really that stable after the shame they had to go through after WW1. They will believe in anything that they think will make German strong again and Hitler indeed, gave them what they want. Racism in that era is also very prominent so people wouldn’t find any problems with anti-semitic content. So it doesn’t make sense to bomb him on first sight and I am pretty sure people do indeed take Mein Kampf very seriously and they wished to believe in it so your alternative doesn’t really work.
Code Geass however, could have make decisions that make more sense. The Shirley issue for example, there’s no reason to make her forget Lelouch instead of how he is Zero other than trying to create a contrived drama where one day, Shirley will remember Lelouch and you will get this huge emotional melodrama between them.
There’s no reason for Lelouch to risk using a video recording to talk to Mao and go to the actual scene in the episode where Mao kidnapped C.C since the police will kill Mao anyway and give Lelouch enough time to save C.C after that if Lelouch geassed them correctly. The whole I know how you are going to react is very stupid because it’s impossible to get the timing so precise and again, no reason to do that and risked fucking things up because Lelouch can always go back to the scene after Mao is dead and if he geassed the police correctly, they won’t hinder him.
I am not taking things out of context and suggest what I believe will make the show better but rather, criticizing the characterization of the characters and how ridiculous and contrived the plot are by comparing it with what I believed to be a more sensible and believable scenario. Code Geass had only itself to blame for having a plot device so convenient that it makes you question why so and so didn’t do such and such. It’s very distracting.
I have to admit that I went into the show with preconceived notions on who Lelouch is. People said that he is like Light in Deathnote so I assumed that he will be more thorough, cold hearted and not fuck things out so much. Even then, I still believe that Lelouch is not even smart at all. He fuck things out so easily and make mistakes so stupid, I can’t help but to question his intellect.
I got the vibe from Code Geass that beside the highschool hijinks, it is a serious show where you should take it very seriously. Just take a look at the concepts it tried to explore. World peace, terrorism and war, all of which are issues that I don’t take lightly. However, did Code Geass complements these concept with good mature writings that they deserve? I don’t think so. For one, take Zero Requiem, the plan to world peace for example. Make everyone hates one person then kill him to attain peace. What? Where in the hell did they pull that from? Does that makes sense to you? Did we attain a long period of peace from nations who hated Hitler after he got killed?
People sold Code Geass to me as a smart show with deep political intrigue. They treated it very seriously like it really says something. It also touches on a lot of very serious and important issues so I have to dignify it by deconstructing the whole thing and be more critical about it.
I however did accept the show’s rules for the second season and watched it as a goofy comedic trainwreck. In fact, I can’t deconstruct the second season like I do for the first one because by that time, I don’t really care anymore and just watch it mindlessly for the fanservice and non CG mecha action.
Finally, I will present you with this! A serious scene during a serious plot revelation!

April 16, 2012 at 10:06 am
Chevalier
There are surely some people who do believe that’s one possible structural flaw in LOTR, but the work as a whole is still held is fairly high critical esteem (and, not that it matters much, it is obviously popular among people of all ages and with all sorts of personal or academic backgrounds) in spite of this, for the sake of enjoying the rest of the story for any number of other reasons.
Yes, I was simplifying the outbreak of World War II on purpose, that’s a fact, but the point is there are multiple actions a number of informed human beings could apparently have taken at the time in order to avoid it which seem easy to carry out, at least in retrospect, when viewed from a distance and with a sufficiently high degree of cynicism as what is often applied to criticize many fictional works. The point is things did not “need” to happen exactly like they did in our history.
For example: High-ranking German military conspirators planned to either kill or remove Hitler at various points, even during the 1936-1939 period, particularly if the Western allies had been willing to stand up to some of his earliest transgressions that foreshadowed his ultimate intentions instead of letting him build up confidence by caving to his demands. From a cynical perspective, it would arguably have “made more sense” if any of these conspiracies had been successfully attempted or, just as well, if the Allies had refused to accept Hitler’s reoccupation of the Rhineland and his stated intentions to carry out a complete militarization program. There’s obviously more and more additional scenarios. In the end, key decisions were (or weren’t) made by a number of fallible human beings, not all of which are objectively or subjectively correct from our modern viewpoints.
Reality is, of course, quite complex. The larger political, social or economic trends of 1930s European history would remain and require some sort of resolution sooner or later, even if a “world war” didn’t actually happen under the new conditions, but the changes resulting from different human actions would definitely lead to different consequences, whether for better or for worse, and this alternate history wouldn’t necessarily resemble what we now know of. Even small ripples can have long-term effects, and that’s what I was getting at with my admittedly simple statement in the previous post.
Leaving those issues aside, let’s go back to the anime here.
As an external critic I don’t mind agreeing with several of your complaints concerning Code Geass on a technical level, on paper, but that sometimes changes when I try to put things in full context.
For instance…Shirley’s memories: It was a rash decision, yes, but there’s nothing in Lelouch’s character that makes it too hard to understand. Quite the opposite: It fits within a pattern of similar behavior and is compatible with the rest of his personality. You can argue that was a plot point created by the writers for the sake of drama, which is obviously true in the grand scheme of things, but so what? This doesn’t make it out of character or somehow impossible to accept, even at face value.
The way I see it, there were certainly far more sensible and believable ways to resolve the issue, in this and other situations, but the underlying question is this: Will intelligent human beings always pick the most sensible, rational and least risky solution when presented with varying types of problems…and should we expect this from fictional characters?
The answer is clearly no, not at all. Making bad choices is part of life. Being lucky is part of life. Screwing up is part of life. Doing ridiculous things that somehow end up working is part of life. Doing the right thing and still failing is a part of life. Fiction only exaggerates something that is already there.
This doesn’t excuse everything in the script, no, but it does reduce my real concerns about problems with the show to only a handful, as opposed to dozens and dozens of nitpicks. At the same time, there are many developments I can understand due to analysis but dislike as a person, and vice versa.
To me, Code Geass was always intentionally over-the-top, right from the first episode and the melodrama was meant to be only half-serious, at best, not something absolutely credible and realistic that stands up to a merciless deconstruction. I don’t know about any of the people who have described the show as a brilliant piece of literature, but I didn’t have such misplaced expectations.
At the same time, I didn’t jump right into the so-called “trainwreck” bandwagon because it’s missing the point, in a way, by assuming that everything ridiculous about the show is “bad” because it is allegedly unintentional, and so there’s a barely hidden sense of anger or dissatisfaction behind that attitude which, to be quite honest, never really described the gist of my experience with the show.
Of course, I did find the second season to be inferior and too sloppy for its own good, but I didn’t have this sort of underlying “I should completely hate this, yet I also love it” line of thought. Even as I had fun laughing at some scenes, I still found enough things to make me care, as a reasonably critical person, as opposed to only mindlessly mock.
At the end of the day, I’d have to say even just the artwork, character designs and musical choices made me aware of the show’s nature. The school antics only serve to highlight it further: relax and go along for the ride and have fun, instead of expecting a reenactment of actual history.
Speaking of which….to make a long story short, I believe Zero Requiem works better in terms of theme than in terms of logic, where it is certainly rather weak. I accept it as a valid way to end a story and resolve Lelouch’s predicament, not as an example of how real problems should be addressed.
April 16, 2012 at 12:48 pm
IWICSYI
The reason why I specifically state that LotR has flawed plot instead of stating that it is a flawed work is because plot is not everything. I believe people still held LotR highly because of its characters or whatever people like from a story. However, if someone is pissed off by that structural flaw so much so that it destroys LotR for them it, it’s still legit argument for me. I think that criticism holds as much weight as whatever merits LotR had.
Thanks for that interesting history. I always wanted to know more about WWII but couldn’t really find the motivation or resources to do so because I am a slacker.
Yes, people do fuck things up in real life but is my intention of watching an anime to see people fuck things up so much? I know it’s not out of character for Lelouch to do that but that doesn’t necessary mean that I should enjoy his character. It’s like having an intentional annoying character that annoys you but if they really annoyed you then they are successful in what they do but it still doesn’t change the fact that ultimately, you are annoyed by it and it spoils the whole thing for you.
With that said, my main issue with that Shirley’s scene is not because Lelouch was out of character but the contrived drama that will derive from it. There’s no doubt that Shirley will one day regain her memory and they will have this big emotional scene. That is contrived, cliche and predictable writing. Worst still, all these upcoming unnecessary drama are based on a rushed decision that doesn’t even make sense in the first place. This bugs me a lot because it’s so heavy handed and obviously emotionally manipulative.
http://animeyume.com/blog/2009/03/22/what-exactly-do-japanese-and-american-otaku-like-about-anime/
“Anyone who’s familiar with the complicated politics and historical events in mecha anime like Code Geass and Gundam 00″
Insert other 10/10 reviews from MAL and other review sites.
I will admit I have never really read a full review of Code Geass because I prefer going into an anime without knowing anything about it. All my misplaced expectations are snippets of what I’ve seen and heard here and there.
By assuming everything is ridiculous and allegedly unintentional is the only way for me to justify watching this show because that’s the only thing I can do to get some enjoyment out of it. If they intentionally make Charles Zi Brittania so hilarious then they must be fucking high because he is supposed to be a serious character.
Again, this picture.

I guess the intention of the creator is to make this scene as theatric looking as it can be but it failed with hilarious goofy result. If the creators intentionally make this funny then they don’t understand drama and are bad writers. Either way, it’s bad but if it’s the former then at least it’s excusable because hey, they tried.
This is just one clip-able moment out of many example that can’t be summed up with a single picture.
It’s cool that you like Code Geass and they are reasonable. It’s good that you stayed classy throughout the comment without retorting to the use of “LOL TROLL, OBVIOUS TROLL IS OBVIOUS” which is so prevalent with Code Geass apologist else where.
I understand the whole relax, go along with the flow and not nitpick the shit of everything message you want to convey but I can’t do that when a show constantly offend my sensibility.
In fact, I was playing Football Manager when I was slogging through the 2nd season so I was as “going with the flow and accept everything” as you can get by then. Even still, without thinking critically, I was offended by the bullshit logic of Zero Requiem. Sure, it’s a valid way to end a story but it’s not good sensible writing that convince. A lapse of logic is still a fatal flaw.